Hi it’s Penny Zenker your host of Take Charge of Your Productivity. 

Here we explore your greatest potential by tapping into the ten core elements of time and energy management.  Today we are talking language.  Language is one of the four elements that make up our psychology.  In my experience, language is the most important of the ten critical elements that make up Take Charge of your Productivity.  I have come to realize that language dictates the quality of life because its centered around the communication we have with ourselves.  To simplify how all of these elements come together, I came up as a windmill as a metaphor for productivity.  The windmill has a gear mechanism that works from within, the smoother the blades turn the more productive you tend to be.  In taking charge of your productivity there are three segments that are critical.  They are psychology, strategy and sustainability.  Without all three of these, your productivity windmill is underpowered.  It turns but is not turning optimally.  There are ten core elements that make up these three blades.

Today you will learn the influence that self-talk has on our mind set.   How you can use positive self-talk to better physical health.  And how to shift our language to a more productive mindset. 

We are joined by Tom Duncan Md.  He is a family physician.  A master neurostrategist.  Since becoming one, he has reduced the number of antidepressants that he prescribes to his patients by over 85%.  Wow.  He knows how to get to the root cause of his patient’s problems.  Often eliminating the need for prescribed drugs.  He now shares these practices and principles with audiences around the world through his energetic speaking engagements.  His book due out next year.  His book will be avaible in 2014 is called Eliminating Ants, Cants and But’s Breaking through the Pattern of Depression.  He is creating amazing results with his patients and audience and he is also a dear friend of mine.  How fun to have you here Dr. Tom.

Dr:  I am so honored to be here with you today.  I am thrilled to share these insights that I have come across the past twenty years. 

P:  I know you as a man with an incredible passion for healing people.  Can you share with our listeners what motivated you to become a medical doctor?

Dr:  I wanted to help people. It was that simple.  I saw the compassion that the people gave my father when he was suffering from lung cancer.  I was in the army program ROTC.  I went on active duty and worked with amazing physicians and physicians assistants.  I noticed there the difference they make in people’s lives.  After going to medical school, and the time I spent in school, learning western medicine, what I noticed was and not making it right or wrong, I saw myself treating the symptoms and not the root cause of what was going on.  Now I wanted to take a look at that.  How can I help people heal themselves?  That is what really motivated me to step up. 

P:  It’s so important to get to the root cause of the problem.  I am so impressed with an 85% reduction in antidepressants.  How is that possible?

Inner voice and self talkDr:  What is amazing in my practice is it’s a spectrum of suffering people.  They come in from a complete range of suicidal to we all deal with our humanity.  Struggling with finances, relationships and everyone is struggling with that.  What I noticed was a pattern of behavior that is taking place and I was wondering if I could share a personal story with you.  It was several years ago and I was struggling with who I was, what I wanted to be and just what is it that was my calling.  I was a practicing physician in the army.  It was going well but my personal life was in shambles.  I was developing symptoms of depression and anxiety and I went to my colleagues for help.  I was given medication to help with depression.  Then other symptoms happen and then more prescriptions.  Pretty soon I was on a cocktail of medication.  My health wasn’t very good.  I was extremely overweight.  Just not having a very healthy lifestyle.  Then I was struggling with a marriage going through a divorce.  Then the pinnacle of all of this Penny, was I was diagnosed with a brain tumor.  How am I gonna take care of this?  All I could think of was having a neurosurgeon going through my mouth and to my brain to take out this tumor out of my pituitary.  I thought there has to be a better way.  That is when I started seeing these patterns.  Not only in myself, but in all of the other people coming to me.  I don’t think it’s genetic.  What is turning those genes on and off has got to be in the environment.  That is where I saw the power of self-talk.  Our self-talk is so important and I believe it triggers those environmental effects within our genetic code that can cause the genetic or the chemical imbalance within our brain that gives us symptoms of depression.  To get back to the question, how have I been able to reduce prescription is by showing people that they have a choice.  They are not at the consequence of everything around them.  They have control of two things in their life Penny.  Those two things:  1. We get to control our inner talk.  2.  The things that we put into our body.  I know you have Dr. Isaac Jones coming up who is amazing.  He is going to talk about cellular health and detox.  Today, I am going to talk about the effects of self-talk on healthy cells and how it generates overall health and vitality.  By addressing the self-talk and they are actually in charge where they can build an emotional muscle over time to become emotionally fit.  Where I talk with people in my clinic, I ask them if they can work out once and be fit for life.  And they say no, of course not.  Its the same thing as becoming emotionally fit.  You have to build and believe and become associated with it.  You build that muscle over time.  Its absolutely amazing to see people step into their own selves and own it.  They see that yes, they can do it.

P:  What’s great there is this is the number one important element out of Take Charge of Productivity, simply focusing on that muscle of language, you have been able to help these people to reduce their antidepressants.  That is incredible.  Tell us about your upcoming book.  Eliminating Ants Cant’s and Buts:  breaking depression.  What does that title mean?

Dr:  I love keeping it simple.  Many of your listeners or yourself are familiar with what not to wear.  Have you heard of that show?  What amazes me is watching how they take somebody who is doing beautiful things in their life as far as their vocation, but the exterior doesn’t quite match that.  They take them through a process and at the end they come out transformed.  They have beautiful hair and makeup and clothes that fit their body.  What’s amazing with that is that their self-talk makes shift as well to support their new self-image.  How that shows up with them is just truly amazing.  With my book, I help people take that journey from where they are at with their current self-image, and they build the little nuggets to where they want to take that.  They transform themselves. 

P:  I love that.  That program shows us that our beliefs are created through our self-talk.  Many people think they can’t change who they are.  If you take off what you are wearing and put on something else, you can believe what you want to believe.  It’s true.  Think about the way you feel differently when you are wearing sweat pants versus a suit.  Or you are dress in a tuxedo.  You get a completely different feeling.  I think that is a great metaphor for people to think about.  It’s as simple as changing clothes.

Dr:  I agree.

P:  I am excited for your book to come out.  I wanted to ask you about the concept of hierarchy of communication.  How self-talk impacts everything that we do.  Tell us specifically in your book how language plays a role.

Dr:  It’s simply how language creates our inner feelings, emotions and our self-talk.  We are either growing or we are dying.  So it’s the struggle I see with people.  Faith verses fear type of thing.  When people use language like I am a failure and I can’t succeed, that creates the fear factor.  It creates a protective effect within our body and we shut down the overall growth factor but we become into that fight or flight response.  We talked about this before, when emotions run high, intellect goes low.  Then it shuts down our immune system.  Then it releases the cortisol from our adrenal system.  It’s just in the protective mode.  So there is no energy creation during that process.  If you are going with more of a process where I am controlling the meaning to make it empowering meaning I am able to transform that energy and continue with those positive thoughts. 

P:  Through your book, you are teaching people how to achieve this.  Yes?

Dr:  You know what is amazing.  It’s as simple as driving a car with a stick shift.  The first time you get in and put it in first gear.  You let off the clutch perfectly and you drove smoothly.  Ha ha ha….No I actually went over a two foot embankment and almost ran over a truck.  My father made me get back in and drive it immediately, what a great gift.  The thing is now, over time as I exercise that emotional muscle, it’s just become who I am.  How I am able to show up.  Again, we all start where we are.  There is a beautiful place to be.  Just continue to visualize where you want to go.  Live with solution and measure results and keep building that muscle.  It is an easy thing to do when you look at it as a fun playful process.  You can think, I am just changing my shirt here.  The reticular activating system, once we become aware of it consciously, our conscious mind helps us scan that.  Focusing on what you want plays a huge role.  On the flip side, I will joke around and say to my clients, whatever you do, we are going to get series, I will put on my serious face:  Don’t think of a blue monkey.  They look at me like I am crazy.  I said, don’t you think about it.  They laughed because they did.  My point was to show them that even though I told them not to think about it, they went ahead and did it anyway.  I tell people about the pattern.  Saying I don’t want this and I don’t want that….you will get what you don’t want.  If you don’t have an idea of where you are going any road will get you there.

P:  It’s time to take a break.  Stay tuned as we get into more depth of language.

Hi everybody.  I am Coach Penny Zenker and we are speaking about the power of self-talk with Dr. Tom Dunkin.  Author of Eliminating Ants, Cant’s and Buts: Breaking the Patterns of Depression.

Dr:  Thank you so much for having me on your show.

P:  My next question is:  how do you define productivity and why?

Dr:  Not only am I a family physician, I also am part owner of a business.  It is near and dear to my heart.  My definition is simply an equation of productivity equals your energy divided by the resistance.  Energy equals the amount of time and effort it takes to accomplish a task verses the resistance of getting those tasks completed. 

P:  I like that.  Based on that equation, what are the factors and elements that have the biggest impact on productivity?

Dr:  What I truly see is the rapport within oneself.   Again, self-talk.  It’s the biggest takeaway from productivity.  What I see is not only within myself, but other people.  It’s a pattern of doubting of whether I can or can’t do it.  We spend more time holding onto old patterns that no longer serve us and fight that blue monkey.  Verses letting that go and focusing on what we do want.  That is what I see.  Its having that alignment.  I talk about that in my book.  How to align your conscious mind and unconscious mind.  Your mission, your vision and to practice that with visualization.  Then you can live that.  You can measure the results. 

P:  Is that the energy part of the equation part?

Dr:  No that is in the resistance part.  Energy is completely separate.  You have two ways to increase productivity.  You can either increase the amount of energy or reduce the resistance.  Reducing the resistance. 

P:  Ok, can you take a moment to talk about the energy side of things.

Dr:  Energy when it relates to self-talk, is how we feel about ourselves.  How do we actually see ourselves?  That is going on through our values, beliefs, past experiences.  When I talk about my vision I see myself as a healer.  Someone who is passionate about helping people and helping them experience their dreams.  When I say that, right now I have goosebumps from head to toe.  That energizes me.  That is the power.  That is the energy I am talking about when you are looking at productivity.  How do you see yourself?  How your language creates that juice inside of you that makes you want to serve somebody.  How can I become more?  How can I grow and give back and make a difference in this world today.

P:  I told the listeners that you are passionate.  They are seeing it!  Let’s go to the x factor.  You talked about the equation and you talked about the different factors that have an impact.  Is there one thing that you would say is the x factor?

Dr:  Yes, it’s the resistant portion of that.  Instead of adding more energy, it’s an option, and sometimes it’s easier to just let go of the things that no longer serve you.  The obstacles that I have seen are the ones we place in our own minds.

P:  Interesting concept.  Letting go of the resistance seems to be the most challenging aspect. 

Dr:  The difference between faith and fear here.  Even though we are not doing things that are serving us, it’s because it’s comfortable.  We humans don’t want to let go of something that is known even though it is no longer serving us.  If we focus in on our faith, that yes, there is something more, we can become more, I truly believe there will be a shift in our psyche that will support that.  That is where you have to believe and let go of the baggage.  One of my issues is with all of this energy and passion, sometimes I can be an emotional leader.  So I used to fight don’t open the fridge, don’t open the fridge, when I was upset.  I spend more time saying don’t open the fridge, instead of reaching in and grabbing food, I have a bottle of water at eye level.  I grab the water and keep moving.

P:  What a great strategy.

Dr:  I have let go of the thing that doesn’t serve me.  Instead of fighting against it, use it and make a healthier choice in the process. 

P:  You have created this strategy out of that and you know that is happening so you have taken your environment and set it up so that you have a better choice available.  From your experiences as a family physician, how does language affect our health and physiology? 

Dr:  You hear the commercials that say we are what we eat.  I am also a firm believer that we are what we think.  We wouldn’t pour kerosene in the gas tank of our car and wonder why it doesn’t run well.  We do that to our body sometimes I think what you see when you are not eating the right foods, sometimes your body will reflex that through disease.  You can be overweight or high blood pressure.  You really just don’t see the impact it has on the brain.  We have a tendency to neglect it and say it must not be true if we can’t see it.  But if you really truly think about it, the same thing that happens to us when we are eating unhealthy foods, the same thing is when we are not thinking healthy thoughts. 

P:  There is a direct correlation between our physical health and our mental health.  If we talk about the communication as a piece of our mental health, right?

Dr:  Yes.

P:  In my program I talk about the quality of our life is determined by the quality of our communication.  I don’t mean in the form of affirmations.  Saying things over and over again.  That won’t make it truer.  But really generating positive self-talk and quality questions to generate energy that are going to have a huge impact on our outcome.  From your experience as an md, how much of our energy comes from language?

Dr:  I think it is the hub of all of our energy.  From my perspective, energy comes from 3 different sources.  Instinctively from the food we bring in and also from the activity we have.  Physical activity will generate energy as well.  Our mission of who we are and then from our autobiography of what are the events in our lives and that all feeds through our self-talk and self-image to create the spark in the morning that wants us to go out to make a difference.  The strongest force in the human psychology is how we define ourselves.  Our self-image, our identity.  So when you see yourself as someone who is passionate and energetic, you step in and you own that shirt or tuxedo and it becomes who you are. 

P:  We gain some valuable insight about our identity last week. Larry Ackerman.  So for our listeners, if you didn’t listen to that program you will want to go back and listen to that.  Tell us, in your practice, how do you see using language with your patients?

Dr:  I had this unique gentleman, who is 69 years old.  Just the sweetest greatest guy in the world.  He comes in with his wife.  She is in tears.  His kidneys were shutting down from his diabetes.  His blood sugar was 250.  When I was talking with him, it was kind of like, he wasn’t owning it.  Bottom line, I said you had to get your diabetes under control.  He said, well, we will see.  I said, we’ll see?  That is not good enough.  You deserve better.  What is it about yourself from the past when you had to face a challenge, would you have said, we’ll see?  Do you really think with “the we’ll” see approach you will actually do that.  He said, no, I guess not.  I said how can you own this right now because not only do you deserve better, your bride deserves you as well.  What was amazing was to see that shift when his eyes lit up and he said, that’s right I own this and can do this.  I saw him just the other day and to have him walk in, he was lit up.  You could tell as a man, he owned himself.  His wife was just beaming at him.  You could feel the love that they were sharing.  He said, I have got this.  We checked his blood sugar, it went from over 250 down to 150 in seven weeks, Penny.

P:  And did you prescribe any medication?

Dr:  No!  And actually the medication he was on, he has goals to start to get off. 

P:  I have heard people say they can’t change who they are.  I know that people change all of the time, on a dime.  Just like this man you are referring to.  Often, it can be from an event, or it can be from simple questions at the right place at the right time.  Do you have any experience with asking the right question at the right time?

Dr:  I had a man come in.  Blue collar, salt of the earth, kind of guy.  He came in telling me he didn’t want any of my medications.  He said he was depressed and hated his job and life.  I said, wow, well welcome.  So what I found out was that he built guard rails for the state and so he was out working every day and really making a difference.  The love of his life was his two twin girls and to watch him talk about his beautiful girls, he would light up like a Christmas tree.  I go oh, so what is it that you do?  I build guard rails, it’s a dead end job.  I asked how are you serving people?  Through a series of questions, I got to the point of helping him realize that we was saving lives.  To watch him shift into that new thought process of how he sees himself.  I said, so not only do you save lives so other parents can go home be with their families, what else does it allow you to do.  After a few questions, he realized he is able to pay his mortgage for his own so that his daughters have a safe, loving place to grow up in.

P:  Perhaps you could share a story where it’s made a difference in your life.

Dr:  It was a day that I was talking with you.  As a busy physician, I see 25 patients a day with mountains of paperwork.  In the past, I used to label my paperwork as drudgery, and difficult and something I didn’t like.  You asked me a question.  You said, how is it that you can continue to serve your clients?  I went oh my gosh, you are right.  The light bulb went on.  I went I am continuing to serve my clients by doing this charting.  From that shift Penny, I have been able to work less because I get my work done on Thursday night before I leave.  I have time now to do other things that I enjoy.

P:  Could you share what was the strategy to that? 

Dr:  Within our charts, we have a picture of our client.  So, I would become interactive with my client and it became easier to for me to go deeper into each patient. 

P:  Time for our final break. 

Welcome back to the last segment of this week’s Take Charge of your Productivity.

I am joined today by Dr. Tom Duncan. 

P:  Tom, this has been an incredible show today.  I know they have walked away with a lot of value.  Where can we learn more information about you, your book and your programs?

Dr:  Thank you.  My website is under construction DrThomasDuncan.com

P:  I know you are releasing a new online healing program.  Could you share more about that?

Dr:  Yes, I was suffering from a brain tumor in my pituitary gland.  Through the process of visualizing the positive and turning off the negative.  I was able to absolutely heal myself.  I am creating visual programs that help deal with headaches, fatigue, sleep issues, stomach issues, etc.  It will allow people the ability to empower themselves so they too can heal themselves just as I did.

P:  What an incredible resource.  I can’t wait for that to come out.  I also understand that you are focusing more time on public speaking.  You are taking it on the road.  What are the topics that are available to speak on?  What audiences do you speak to?

Dr:  My audience is very diverse.  I see people on the entire spectrum from those who are suicidal to people who just want to become more. 

P:  Go back and listen to this program again because I love that equation that you brought up in the beginning.  You said it so eloquently.  The equation of productivity was the combination of energy and resistance.

Dr:  The combination of energy divided by resistance. 

P:  I wanted people to hear that again.  It is so powerful.  To summarize todays program.  Language is a key driver in energy management and directly affects the results we get or create.  If we ask ourselves and others quality questions, we get quality answers.  It is as simple as it sounds.  By changing your self-talk, you can change the quality of your life.  In my webinar membership program, I go into more detail on the hierarchy of communication.  How you can change that to optimize your confidence.  Regulate your emotions.  Feeling good about what you are achieving and your results which are ultimately how you measure your productivity.  You have heard here from Dr. Tom Duncan.  He provides amazing resources.  His site is DrThomasDuncan.com to get some amazing resources around the language component.  Please send us a message on Facebook, tweet on twitter, text us and really let us know what you think.  Go to my site www.facebook.com/PennyZperspective  and on Twitter you can reach me on www.twitter.com/pennyzenker  If you have any questions, please post them or send me an email.  Join us next as we talk to Dr. Jones, CEO of Designer Health Centers and the world leading detoxification expert.  He will share with us common mistakes people make and damage their overall health.  Until next week, this is Penny Zenker reminder to Take Charge of Your Time and Energy.  It’s a choice you can feel good about.